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Smudgesmum

puppy seems healthy but sloppy poo with blood

my 12 wk pup saw vet @ 9 weeks re diarrhoea with "jelly" + blood in. Vet suggested bacterial colitis - not coping with new bacteria re moving to new home, + colon not taking water from food so coming thru in poo, this together with inflammation would cause the blood + jelly too. She had antibiotics + prescription puppy food for 5 days, slight improvement but nothing amazing. 2nd vet gave health check + 2nd vaccination + said pup very healthy + nothing wrong with her? Has been wormed over 3 days this week with panacur paste. Poo still various stages of sloppy and still regular blood and jelly in it. Pup is very healthy otherwise, lively and playful, teething like mad, very alert and naughty, eats well, sleeps well. Ideas?

31/7/10

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Chicco Chicco

She won't be teething - she is mouthing. Google mouthing in puppies and there will be lots of methods to stop this. This is the way they communicate with their "pack" - hence the reason if you give her a toy she will discard that and come for your hands instead.

Learn to use these times to interact in a positive way. ie teach her sit - leave - down - and other commands while she is receptive.

As for the colitis, I think as long as she remains alert and naughty then let the anti-biotics do their job.
Difficult to know whether to vaccinate & worm when under the weather but that's done now.

If this continues then look at diet. She could be reacting to the grains in the food.

31/7/10

Chicco Chicco

Meant to say - if the mouthing get silly and over the top... walk away and leave her. A puppy that bites too hard is left on its own by the others.

31/7/10

TonyT TonyT

QUOTE CHICCO: "Difficult to know whether to vaccinate & worm when under the weather but that's done now."

I agree, I know our vet would never worm or vaccinate when a dog is under the weather..as for Colitis, it's well known that vaccinations can aggravate this condition.

31/7/10

Smudgesmum

Thanks for the replies. Personally, I don't think the 1st vet would have gone ahead with vacc etc, but I didn't take her to the 2nd appt so no chance to discuss with 2nd vet. She hasn't been ill at all tho, plays and chews and runs around like a whippet on speed! She needs puppy socialisation classes but I'm unsure if they'll accept her with the lovely poo situation still ongoing. Good vet mentioned 3 types of colitis, one being colitis X cos cause unknown. Wonder if it's a lifelong condition?

31/7/10

Chicco Chicco

What is she and did you get her from a very good breeder.

31/7/10

Smudgesmum

Her mum is a cairn terrier and her dad is a westie. Got her from a farm. Breeder seemed ok and set up there appeared well run. I'm thinking it may be diet affecting colitis after reading various sites about the condition. Apparently best to starve her for 24 - 48 hours, then give chicken and rice / pasta. Before doing that I might limit her to dry food for a day or so and see how that goes.

31/7/10

Chicco Chicco

Not pasta.... only rice. If it is food then pasta will aggravate.

Do the chicken and rice and get back if still a problem.

31/7/10

Smudgesmum

Thanks, she loves chicken so it shouldn't be a problem!

31/7/10

stuart stuart

I suspect that the poo problem will be diet related. Stick to the rice and chicken for a while as an exclusion diet. That means that you exclude EVERYTHING else excep water for at least 10 days. Then and only then provided thatthe poo is normal do you consider adding anything else 1 item only at a time. Good luck.

1/8/10

Smudgesmum

I gave her chicken and rice and at first she enjoyed it but then seemed to be looking for extras as she seemed hungry all the time. Just when I thought the blood had stopped, it appeared again! It's always bright red and she strains although the poo is sloppy. Past couple of days have seen a difference, haven't seen blood and sometimes the poo is almost formed! Decided to limit to dry food although she's not happy with that decision! Seems to firm it up and makes her less frequent.

8/8/10

stuart stuart

thanks for the update.
carry on as you are altering nothing that you do not have to

8/8/10

cricketpro

I would suggest another fecal exam and have them look for coccidia.

9/8/10

stuart stuart

good plan why didn't I think of that!
Consider yourself veterinary adviser for the rest of the night. I have just got back from cycling to Scarborough and back was wet and tired and hungry. Am now warm and dry and well fed and suapect that I sahll be a sleep very very soon. Better put the phone on extra load ring.

10/8/10

Smudgesmum

Stopped the moist food that she loved so much - lo and behold - proper pickupable poo! No blood, no more probs - fingers crossed. Thanks everyone x

13/8/10

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